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    Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    The attached image was taken somewhere between 1955 to 1960.

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    I know that in the early days of photography there was a "colourised" process/method used with black & white photo's.

    To me this looks like it has been colourised, OR is the weird flat look, an artifact of the early colour film process?

    As time marches on, there are probably not that many people who would know or appreciate this.

    Your thoughts much appreciated.
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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Looks very much like ‘colorized’ As you call it. My Mother used to do this back in the 1950s. She would hand paint the black and white prints with special water colour paints and over the years produced some very convincing colour prints some of which are scattered among family members. I’m not sure if I have any in the disorganised archives of my back room but I might have a look now that you’ve bought it to my attention.
    Thanks for the memories.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Quote Originally Posted by closei View Post
    Looks very much like ‘colorized’ As you call it. My Mother used to do this back in the 1950s. She would hand paint the black and white prints with special water colour paints and over the years produced some very convincing colour prints some of which are scattered among family members. I’m not sure if I have any in the disorganised archives of my back room but I might have a look now that you’ve bought it to my attention.
    Thanks for the memories.
    This would have been taken with a Box Brownie in the mid 1950s as a black and white then hand coloured.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Thanks for the info closei.

    My brother and I were having a "discussion" about it, he was more on the early colour film side and I on the hand colourized. So your info confirms what I originally thought.

    What really impresses me is the skill of the people like your mother who did this - no selecting undo if something went wrong, you probably had to start over again on a fresh print.

    It also amuses me in that I often read people with a film background bemoaning digital images and all the "post-processing" that goes on. Well, if this isn't post-processing taken to the extreme, I don't know what is. In the end, if the processing "adds" to the image and context then go for it. In this case I think it does.

    cheers.
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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    I watched an old artisan in Thailand colourising an A4 print. It took him days to do it. His "brush" had one hair in it so effectively one pixel at a time.
    Your photo certainly looks like the "colour" prints I saw as a kid.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    what really impresses me is the skill of the people like your mother who did this - no selecting undo if something went wrong, you probably had to start over again on a fresh print.

    Funny you should say that, I found another one from way back where a few drops of one colour found its way on another colour. Whoops!

    M & G.jpg

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Ahh! took me a while to see it. You mean the two spots of light blue. That's a great image that "reveals" the technique used.

    I reckon I would have had the skill to do it, given the time to do it, but with possibly more splotches....???

    I wonder if there is a Photoshop/Lightroom filter that could replicate the colorised effect? Although one may well ask, how could a computer algorithm work out the colours in the Tartan Beret from a B&W image?
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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Quote Originally Posted by stix View Post
    Ahh! took me a while to see it. You mean the two spots of light blue. That's a great image that "reveals" the technique used.

    I reckon I would have had the skill to do it, given the time to do it, but with possibly more splotches....???

    I wonder if there is a Photoshop/Lightroom filter that could replicate the colorised effect? Although one may well ask, how could a computer algorithm work out the colours in the Tartan Beret from a B&W image?
    Don't know, I doubt it but it could be done manually in PS of course.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Yes back in the 50's and 60's photographers used to hand colour their prints ... Yep that they did.

    Now the first photo we have here would have to the worst I've ever seen ... sorry.

    The ones that I saw were so good, I could bearly believe that someone had in fact painted them, they were so were so well done.

    Even the others that closei prestended are down on par.
    And I don't have any examples of ones that I can show you either, but trust me they were very good.

    A lost era, or lets say a lost art.


    Cheers,
    Les

    PS. I'll go back through some files and see if I can find one.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leicester View Post
    Yes back in the 50's and 60's photographers used to hand colour their prints ... Yep that they did.

    Now the first photo we have here would have to the worst I've ever seen ... sorry.

    The ones that I saw were so good, I could bearly believe that someone had in fact painted them, they were so were so well done.

    Even the others that closei prestended are down on par.
    And I don't have any examples of ones that I can show you either, but trust me they were very good.

    A lost era, or lets say a lost art.


    Cheers,
    Les

    PS. I'll go back through some files and see if I can find one.
    To be fair Les my examples are box brownie photographs, hand coloured in the early 1950s and scanned. I think they haven't done a bad job considering they are not a pro photographers work.

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    Re: Colour re-touched or early colour film print?

    Yeah sure I realised that, but a lot of people did work on 620 or 120 film, normally the smallest film size that they would work on.
    I never did it myself, but I was told the they would scrape the emulsion with a small scaple, or build it up with graphite from a pencil.

    Now back to the photos, I had pretty much guessed that yours were from something like a Box Brownie, and maybe the thread starter also.
    So to be fair not a lot of time would have been spent on them, nor would the better skilled Photographers played a part.
    But I was referring to the more talented photographers.

    So I had a quick look around .... and one can never find something when it's needed, or at least I can't anyway.
    I could only find one example .... and possibly not the best around, and not the worst either, I'd say about the middle of the pie.
    Maybe slightly above the middle, who knows.


    Well that'll be right now it want upload?


    Cheers,
    Les

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